My first podcast guest appearance is here!
A conversation on Grief & Pizza with Marie Poulin and Benjamin Borowski
Oh, gosh, y’all!
Not only did I get to meet a real-life role model last year, but I got to talk with her AGAIN!1 I was delighted to sit down with Marie Poulin and Benjamin Borowski on their podcast Grief & Pizza — and now it’s here.
Marie and Ben are such hospitable hosts. They created a space for an intimate conversation about big questions — vulnerability, flourishing, and what it looks like to serve others well. I’ve been thinking about it ever since.
A few things that stayed with me:
“It’s not being driven. It’s not being pushed. It’s not brute forcing your way into something. It’s a conversation. It’s a conversation with your life. It’s a conversation with your community.”
“You actually have to be vulnerable in order to build trust.” — something a mentor said to me years ago that I still haven’t finished working out.
“There is nothing left to go harder with at this point. So what can I receive instead?”
I hope you'll go take a listen, and that you find something that resonates and stays with you.
Let’s be hopeful, creative, and wise—together.
Shalom,







